It takes a lot of times to do things like that and i think you are a great guy doing all this for us.. It`s so much more interesting to participate in a race/league when we can read about it later on..
Murray got a penalty even i thought it wasn`t enough, but Niki is the Boss and i must accept what he says and i do..
Murray seems to have a better understanding of LFS after these incidents and thats good for the future....
Regarding the bumping we now made a new "rule" - beep the horn and people will not use you in bumpdrafting. So again we learned a lesson..
It`s not easy at all to run a league and satiesfying everybody, belive me i had tried it many times. It`s also very difficult to give warnings and so on. The whole thing is time consuming and no one are payed for it.
And it`s right what Niki wrote...you can either race in the league or not.. Simply as that. (this is not for a specific racer but to everybody in LFS..)
So lets race...even i can`t turn up next monday. I`m gonna go fishing in the North Sea to a place called the Yellow Reef http://www.moelboen.dk/indexeng.htm
But i have never ever seen it on the tracks you has choosen so far in your series. And i still dont like it. But can you tell me a way to keep them from hitting me? In the rules? If a driver honks the horn he will not tolerate bumpdrafting, is that the way to go?
Usually it´s not the guy behind doing the bumpdrafting who ends his race by being pushed around, but the guy in front...
Maybe i should just move my car very far to the side and lift my gas a little bit, in that way the guy behind should know that i dont wanna be hit..
I think 2 points is not enough, but you are the chief so subject closed.. He lost 2 points and i lost at least twice..
But how to avoid bumpdrafting? By honking the horn? And if the driver behind don`t care about my honking he will stil bumpdraft me? Then how to get over that problem?
I dont wanna be bumpdrafted becaused if it ends BAD for me, someone will maybe get a 2 points duck (is that the word.) by ENDING my race and I will maybe loose 10 or even be on the roof. I dont see any racing series in Denmark where bumpdrafting are allowed, bur drafting is.
I think its stupid using bumpdrafting as long i can`t be sure that people accepts that I don`t use bumpdrafting and I dont wanne be used as a bumpdrafter.
I think for me it`s the best to brake hard when someone bumpdrafts me, in that case i can decide if i want ruin my own race or my race should be ruined by a competitor bumping me from behind..
Just my 2 cents. I must accept your rules about bumpdrafting but i think its a wrong way to go. I can either race or not.. You will hear from me..
But don`t tell me that in your real racing you can bump people out of the way. Maybe our danish real racing drivers are from another planet or the organizers are..because the don`t want bumping and so on. I can`t even think of an episode with Tom Kristensen bumping in his early racing days!..
You can still driving with agression, I also does that, but I can still do it fair and clean as I know YOU can if you WANT..
Learning from our mistakes..
But still you did me wrong. Your move was not right..!..
I dont wanna your help by bumping me!!! For me LFS is NO contact. And you didn`t help me because i dont even complaining about you bumping me down the straights.
You said after the race to me "watch your mirrors". I dont need to watch my mirrors in this case. I was ahead of you, it was my racing line. By beeing ahead of you i`m entitled to choose the racing line. And you couldn`t avoid it? LIFT the gas man or brake a little bit! You have a gas pedal and a brake pedal. And out of the corner i was still on the RACING line. Maybe you should have moved to the left? Did you ever thought about that. You joined the track, so a little bit cautions could have helped.
If you had your frontwheel along my side door, i should give room. But you was up on my back wheel. Now you know the collision detection problem, why not take this into account when you are driving. And besides - you joined the track and drove into me. You could have lifted and outbraked me later, but you choosed the dirty driving, apparantly it´s your stile, not mine. You gained by doing it, i lost. You simply just wants to be in the front no matter how you can do it..
I took the NORMAL racing line in that corner. You went outside the racing line.
But i know next time that i just can tap anyone even it`s not my racing line, i can bump them all the time and give a damn on lag hits and so on, i can run of the track and rejoining and punting people of, i can choose not to lift my gas pedal or even brake - infact i should forget the word fair and clean.. Just push and bump them off the track.... Afterwards you can just say that it was the collision detection system that was bad, it was not ny own fault...shitty LFS..
Maybe people making complaints against you because they thinks you did a mistake? You wrote that it should be fun racing - RIGHT!! Clean and fair racing is the words. If you think making a complaint is moaning you are totally wrong! Apparantly you are taking it as seriously as i do by gaining positions no matter in what way they are gained. Lift and brake and we both would have had a nice and clean race..
And a good run out of the fast right hand corner?? Look at it. You hit me right in the back, i almost lost my car. If you had a good run out of that corner you should had tried a move on me....not driving into my rear! I have had many GOOD RUNS out of corners in the past 4.5 years with LFS..but a lot of the times I had to lift the gas or even brake or I would have rammed the guy in front of me (also last night).
But maybe you think its a fair way to do things in that way ? I really don`t. A real racer is a fair racer who can overtake in the most amazing places and not bumping his way through the field. I seen a lot of them in LFS and also very few as you.
Remember i`m not against you as a person (i dont know you), i just don`t like your driving style at all. And some are with me on this. So why not learn from your mistakes?
Murray first hit me in my rear end..i lost my car a little bit, then I took the next corner and was still ahead of him. He the TRIED to overtake me driving to my left and outside the track (curbs) . I was still ahead of him and he REJOINED the track and drove into me. He stayed at his position but i lost at least 9 places..
CAUTION when rejoining the track. Always stay on the track, don`t cheat by cutting corners. Wait until you can make a clean pass. Use your brakes and lift your gas sometimes. Be fair and clean. Thats how i`m driving, but Murray seems to forgot everything i just stated.
UPDATED:
Murray was also bumping me a lot in race 2 turn 3. Okay its the start and many racers around. But he never ever lifts the gas..he is just pushing and pushing. Why not LIFT!! I lift to avoid banging into people. I hit Niki once..but ONLY once, then I lift...but some does not... Normally i dont complaining but it seems that not all knows what clean and fair racing is about...